Layar

We have pulled Layar from the App Store due to crashes

By Dirk on Fri 18 Dec 2009

Yesterday Layar v3 was published in the App Store. After a flood of complaints that the app crashes for many users, we’ve decided to remove the app from the store. Sorry, sorry, sorry.



We had issues already since the very first launch of the iPhone app. Unfortunately these issues were due to bad memory management decisions right from the start, something that we could not easily fix without completely re-engineering the app. There is some old code in there that is buggy and we don’t know exactly where the bug is. Since the app worked fine for 80% of the users (and on all our testing devices), we decided to move on to v3 before we would rebuild the framework of our app. We’ve tested v3 thoroughly internally and did not have any issues with crashes when submitting to the App Store. In fact, we still cannot reproduce the crashes that many of our users are reporting right now.



The percentage of users with crashes has grown too much with the launch of v3 to justify keeping the app online. We don’t want our users to be confronted with an app that is unusable due to systematic crashes. We take great pride in our product and are very serious about delivering high quality to our users and our developer community. We’ve already started re-engeneering the app, but this won’t be finished in a matter of days, rather a matter of weeks.



Our sincere apologies to our developers who put a lot of effort into making great content for Layar v3 that can now only be viewed on Android. We are proud of the layers you made and we will put all our efforts into making them available on the iPhone as soon as possible.



Dirk Groten
CTO Layar

54 comments

  1. Another reason people should leave the IPhone and get Android!

    By Joe on Fri 18 Dec 2009
  2. Thanks for your honesty. I look forward to a fixed version hopefully soon

    By RG on Fri 18 Dec 2009
  3. Interested to see this app arrive in Windows market place for Windows phones. Good luck with rewriting the iphone app

    By Michael on Fri 18 Dec 2009
  4. the second vowel in engineering is 'i'

    By jdpower on Fri 18 Dec 2009
  5. The Droid version still won't let me log into a layer: I log in, go back to layar, and it's as if I never logged in. Nor are any settings (like distance) preserved. Also, layer overlays will vanish if I go to the settings and then back to the camera view. No crashes per se, but the basic functionality isn't really working.

    By Drew on Fri 18 Dec 2009
  6. Oh: two other problems: when something like a tweet is set literally on my position (which happens a lot when imperfect location information defaults things to the exact same coordinates), the screen is basically covered up by the nearby item.

    Also, there's no way to disable the default settings for screen turning off while you look around, meaning the droid will go into lock mode while you are looking (but not yet interacting).

    By Drew on Fri 18 Dec 2009
  7. Will the V2 still be available on the App store? That would be good enough for our purposes right now at least.

    By Peter on Fri 18 Dec 2009
  8. Good luck guys.

    By Richard R on Fri 18 Dec 2009
  9. No one will remember if the app was late.
    Everyone will remember if the app was unreliable.
    I appreciate your candor and commitment to quality.

    By Eric on Sat 19 Dec 2009
  10. Good for you to be open and address the issue with integrity and Transparency.

    Best of luck.

    By James Standen on Sat 19 Dec 2009
  11. we all love layars and I personally appreciate your dedication to quality. you won't find me complaining about time. please fix and update when ready, I'll be waitng patiently to see this awesome app again :) happy holidays~ from Korea

    By dennis on Sat 19 Dec 2009
  12. I, too, appreciate your honesty in updating us about the app. Although v3.0 got rid of my issue with false reading of out-of-memory, it introduced another quirk having to do with the distances that it displayed for search results found, so I look forward to the revamped version.

    By Ronald Boyd on Mon 21 Dec 2009
  13. Put it back on line with a warning.. I don't mind resetting my iPhone occasionally because of a product, if the product is good enough to warrant my attention..

    Oh.. i guess I've been using Windows too long.

    By Jon on Wed 23 Dec 2009
  14. honest and only action you could take.

    it's time Apple gives us some way of doing proper beta testing of our iPhone apps. Now its all (the world including Apple) or nothing (yourself and max 100 testers with a horrendous distribution method called Ad Hoc provisioning).

    We need a beta store!

    By Dirk de Kok on Thu 24 Dec 2009
  15. Have you news ? When Layar will come back please ?
    It's a very good app !

    By Rico on Mon 28 Dec 2009
  16. Finally a software developer that’s puts quality first.
    Saw this app on an iPhone and now that I own a iPhone myself, the first app that I wanted to install was layar, but it’s not available (for good reasons.)
    If there is a mailing list to announce the new release, please put me on it.

    By NoMeursy on Sun 3 Jan 2010
  17. Come on guys check your spelling! You have a typo in your header!

    Looking forward to downloading layar.

    By Shark on Mon 4 Jan 2010
  18. Thanks for being so responsible. I look forward to the app when it is available!

    By Denise on Wed 6 Jan 2010
  19. I'm looking forward to release a Layar app..
    please come back~~~~~

    ToT /~~

    By SinGoon on Wed 6 Jan 2010
  20. I'm looking forward to release the Layar app..
    Please come back..

    ToT /~~

    By Singoon on Wed 6 Jan 2010
  21. I'm looking forward to release the Layar app..
    Please come back..

    ToT /~~

    By nono on Wed 6 Jan 2010
  22. That's very bad news! We have just bought an iPhone 3GS especially for the Spotted by Locals app we have developed...

    Hope it will up again soon!

    By Bart van Poll on Thu 7 Jan 2010
  23. Have you been testing on different versions of the iPhone OS? Memory management rules are the same in all, but internals behave differently, so memory bugs can show up on one and not another. Also, delayed execution objects (NSTimer, NSInvocation) don't retain what they call back to. If a view controller is popped from the navigation stack but a timer of invocation is still pending then it will crash when it goes off. You won't spot these testing on wifi in your lab. Test on 3G and edge, so that the network delays mean sometimes you navigate away before delayed invocations go off.

    By Mark Johnson on Fri 8 Jan 2010
  24. Refreshingly honest and upfront.
    Can't wait to get my hands on the new version - as long as it doesn't disappoint. Take your time, get it right and enjoy the praise.

    By Dan on Tue 12 Jan 2010
  25. Please come back~~!! iPhone ver...

    ToT

    By nanoSin on Tue 12 Jan 2010
  26. 언제 다시 나오나요?
    When does it be re-launched in Apple Store?

    By Kim on Tue 12 Jan 2010
  27. OK- so when is this coming back? It has been quite some time- give us an update Layar folks!

    By Bryan on Wed 13 Jan 2010
  28. Yes please come back, I formatted my iPhone and have lost my existing 3.0 app that never once crashed!

    I'm wanting to do demonstrations of layars for some of my students.

    By Alistair Lowe on Fri 15 Jan 2010
  29. Any date of an estimated rerelease yet?

    By ash on Fri 15 Jan 2010
  30. When will Layar be available in the uk

    By Alex Jones on Fri 15 Jan 2010
  31. 3.0 has never once crashed for me on my 3GS

    By Steve on Sat 16 Jan 2010
  32. As much as I understand your decision to go for quality, I really miss this app after receiving a new Iphone. Please bring it back to us Apple-users!

    By Erik on Sun 17 Jan 2010
  33. Please bring it back, buggy or not. I'll put up with crashes until you fix it up.

    By gerry on Mon 18 Jan 2010
  34. The main crash that happened occurred when you chose an layer, and clicked on the "layers" button to go back to viewing available layers, it would automatically crash then.

    By Raphael Caixeta on Thu 21 Jan 2010
  35. Why there is no information in Apple's app store that Layar would come back?

    By chris on Fri 22 Jan 2010
  36. Any idea when the iPhone ver of Layar may be resurrected? I would also be happy to run a buggy version until you get it fixed, maybe it would help identify where the issues are?! :)

    By Paul Mackenzie Ross on Tue 26 Jan 2010
  37. Please make sure you also read the following post

    http://layar.com/layar-will-be-back-on-the-iphone-soon/

    By Maurice on Tue 26 Jan 2010
  38. I wonder what influence on Layar reliability has fact of jailbreaking. It would be unfair if reports from jailbroken phones caused that application was withdrawn...

    By geerz on Wed 3 Feb 2010
  39. Can't you just re-launch it with a beta stamp? If 80% of users are happy I think it would be the right move.
    Thanks,
    Lars

    By Lars on Thu 4 Feb 2010
  40. That's a pity, but I look forward to the fix and new releases for iPhone. Very interested in having a look at the new developments...

    By Steve Nimmons on Mon 8 Feb 2010
  41. I was wondering when Layar will be givin' a second chance in Februari. Just less than 3 weeks to go in Feb.

    By Prost on Mon 8 Feb 2010
  42. Any updates on when the iPhone version will be availbale?

    By Tom on Tue 9 Feb 2010
  43. End of February is coming quickly but there is no news about the new version. I hope it was already submitted to the App Store.

    By Nicky on Wed 10 Feb 2010
  44. Guys, just checking to see when Layar will be re-released for the iphone? I was bragging to my buddies about it, went to show them, and it was gone.

    By Chris on Wed 10 Feb 2010
  45. Great American's spirit; doesn't cover things up. Looking forward to see it available in App Store...

    By KennyYu on Fri 12 Feb 2010
  46. I don't see many developers with this kind of honesty. I will be back for the new release. And keep this attitude up!

    By Tim on Fri 12 Feb 2010
  47. @KennyYu
    Is that a joke? These people are Dutch, it's a dutch product.

    By MCG on Fri 12 Feb 2010
  48. Hey, Layar is working fine for me - I've had it on my iPhone for three or four months - I work at the apple store, and all the other specialists covet this app; it's fantastic....no problems, yet...beats hell outta yelp or pretty much any other search app....

    By Kile Ozier on Sat 13 Feb 2010
  49. Layar has been my favourite iPhone App for 4 months, and I often showed it off to my mates. To them it was one of the temptations to get an iPhone!
    then i went and deleted a load of stuff by mistake, and now can't get it back!!
    please fix it quick

    By paul r on Sun 14 Feb 2010
  50. Just wanted to let you all know that we are on schedule and hope to release the app end of the month. Thanks for your patience.

    By raimo on Sun 14 Feb 2010
  51. I was looking for in regards to Apple's amazing new device. Cant wait

    By apple ipad on Sat 13 Mar 2010
  52. funny just downloaded the update for my iphone 4 and iOS 4.1 crashes all the time.
    erased and reinstalled the app.
    Crashes always -again.
    This is a mess.

    By peter drijver on Fri 17 Sep 2010
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